1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,646 What does Jack say he did to you? 2 00:00:01,670 --> 00:00:03,306 That he raped me. 3 00:00:03,330 --> 00:00:06,300 - And he didn't? - I didn't say no. 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,406 So my question is, can we say the "A" word here? 5 00:00:10,430 --> 00:00:13,776 Are we aiming for adoption or are we all too shy to say it? 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,976 Running man. 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,176 Eh? 8 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,576 - Get off me, man! - The money. 9 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,146 The running man on the canal. 10 00:00:19,170 --> 00:00:21,446 Why does he have your money in his trouser pocket? 11 00:00:21,470 --> 00:00:22,546 I gave it to him. 12 00:00:22,570 --> 00:00:24,676 It came from a hole in the wall the lunchtime before. 13 00:00:24,700 --> 00:00:28,100 There's CCTV footage. Can you get it for me? 14 00:00:29,270 --> 00:00:30,147 Ella. 15 00:00:30,171 --> 00:00:32,206 Ella! No! Ella! 16 00:00:32,230 --> 00:00:34,276 Which version is it? 17 00:00:34,300 --> 00:00:36,446 They can't both be true. 18 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:38,176 Stop. 19 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,746 Mum. 20 00:00:39,770 --> 00:00:41,430 Mummy. 21 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,246 How often do you get that in a jury trial? 22 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:56,506 By the way, you did it beautifully. 23 00:01:56,530 --> 00:01:57,976 If that's a word you can use 24 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,276 about cross-examining a traumatized 13-year-old. 25 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:01,207 Yes, you can. 26 00:02:01,231 --> 00:02:02,676 You absolutely have to be able to say that 27 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:03,746 or you're not a proper lawyer. 28 00:02:03,770 --> 00:02:05,330 What would you be? 29 00:02:08,700 --> 00:02:10,700 We need to go downstairs. 30 00:02:13,630 --> 00:02:15,106 You said you'd be gentle. 31 00:02:15,130 --> 00:02:16,206 She was. 32 00:02:16,230 --> 00:02:18,230 Did you see her shivering? 33 00:02:22,170 --> 00:02:23,606 When you agreed to run provocation, 34 00:02:23,630 --> 00:02:26,106 I said there would be consequences. 35 00:02:26,130 --> 00:02:27,176 Dealing with those 36 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,776 and understanding why they're a good thing... 37 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,446 That's responsibility, 38 00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:34,076 something that was sucked out of your life by that man. 39 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:37,546 Ella calling out for you like she did, it's so helpful. 40 00:02:37,570 --> 00:02:39,200 The jury liked it, you mean. 41 00:02:40,030 --> 00:02:43,446 Helpful that they saw my daughter shaking like... 42 00:02:43,470 --> 00:02:46,670 Like... And made to feel like a liar. 43 00:02:47,470 --> 00:02:48,776 Sorry. 44 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,430 It's okay. 45 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:56,730 I-I was on my own all the time in that house. 46 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,600 I just wanted... 47 00:03:00,330 --> 00:03:02,146 Is... Is this all right? 48 00:03:02,170 --> 00:03:03,170 Yeah. 49 00:03:07,630 --> 00:03:09,576 Ev... Everything works. 50 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,746 Um, cupboards open at just a touch. 51 00:03:11,770 --> 00:03:14,476 Drawers slide in and out very, very quietly. 52 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:16,730 There's no noise, no... no mess. 53 00:03:18,230 --> 00:03:19,576 W-When we had people over, 54 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,276 everyone would say what a lovely house we had, 55 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:25,306 and... and... and Joe would say it was all down to me, but... 56 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:27,546 You know, "Actually, it's all down to the wife," 57 00:03:27,570 --> 00:03:29,076 he'd say, with his tongue in his cheek, 58 00:03:29,100 --> 00:03:31,406 and everyone would laugh, but it... it wasn't. 59 00:03:31,430 --> 00:03:35,376 It was him. He wanted everything white and clean and... 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,346 It was... It was all glass. 61 00:03:37,370 --> 00:03:40,676 You could see around corners. You could see through walls. 62 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:45,506 There wasn't a room... without walls that you could... 63 00:03:45,530 --> 00:03:47,570 you could just be. 64 00:03:49,130 --> 00:03:51,070 It was glass. 65 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:56,230 It was all... no... no color, no sun. 66 00:03:56,730 --> 00:04:00,006 Sorry. Sorry. I'm... 67 00:04:00,030 --> 00:04:03,130 What do you want to say about the house? 68 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,470 I hate it! 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,500 Yeah. 70 00:04:13,370 --> 00:04:14,600 Yeah. 71 00:04:15,470 --> 00:04:17,800 What's happening to me? 72 00:04:19,170 --> 00:04:21,200 You're talking. 73 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,306 He could see everything. 74 00:04:27,330 --> 00:04:31,200 He knew everything I did. 75 00:04:33,170 --> 00:04:34,800 That night. 76 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,430 What were you worried that Joe would find out? 77 00:04:42,500 --> 00:04:46,530 I went out, and I didn't tell him. 78 00:04:51,170 --> 00:04:54,176 Kate's been saying she wants to go to court. 79 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,446 I've told her no. 80 00:04:55,470 --> 00:04:56,676 Why didn't you tell me? 81 00:04:56,700 --> 00:04:58,500 I've dealt with it. 82 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:01,300 She's not doing well at school. 83 00:05:02,170 --> 00:05:03,147 It's fine. 84 00:05:03,171 --> 00:05:06,170 It's just that she's trying to support her friend and... 85 00:05:07,370 --> 00:05:11,076 "Poor effort. Unfocused. Not the usual Kate." 86 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:13,046 If you won't take it from me, take it from them. 87 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:14,976 What do you want me to do, kick her out? 88 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,977 "I'm sorry, Ella." 89 00:05:16,001 --> 00:05:17,746 I know you're going through the most traumatic experience 90 00:05:17,770 --> 00:05:19,776 any child can possibly go through, 91 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,506 but Kate's getting too many bad grades, 92 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:22,576 so you'll have to go"? 93 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,577 Life has to go on. 94 00:05:23,601 --> 00:05:27,200 All the normal things don't just stop because of Ella. 95 00:05:27,630 --> 00:05:29,770 Or your bloody Juliet. 96 00:05:33,170 --> 00:05:36,076 You know what stopped me from going mad? 97 00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:37,246 Ella. 98 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:38,646 How'd you know? 99 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:40,700 You said you did it for her. 100 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:43,270 I thought I'd lose her. 101 00:05:44,470 --> 00:05:46,530 Is that still going to happen? 102 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,770 What about my baby? 103 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:58,106 We have to get you off on the murder. 104 00:05:58,130 --> 00:06:00,746 Then it's just the manslaughter you're sentenced for. 105 00:06:00,770 --> 00:06:03,430 You said probation was possible. 106 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:07,206 You have to know that a custodial sentence... 107 00:06:07,230 --> 00:06:08,976 Eighteen months. 108 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,977 What? 109 00:06:10,001 --> 00:06:12,476 That's how long babies can be in the prison. 110 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:14,200 Then... 111 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:16,076 Then... 112 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:20,370 if the sentence is any longer, I'll lose her. 113 00:06:23,730 --> 00:06:25,470 I miss Ella. 114 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,800 Not hugging your child, it's, um... 115 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:34,430 It's been a long time. 116 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:38,670 At the police station... 117 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:42,030 they were going to let me see her. 118 00:06:42,530 --> 00:06:44,176 They? 119 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,106 One of the policemen. 120 00:06:46,130 --> 00:06:48,006 What happened? 121 00:06:48,030 --> 00:06:50,030 He broke his promise. 122 00:06:51,630 --> 00:06:54,170 When did he tell you you could see Ella? 123 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:57,446 After you'd left. 124 00:06:57,470 --> 00:06:59,576 Before the second interview. 125 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:00,770 Mm-hmm. 126 00:07:03,770 --> 00:07:05,576 I was present when she was charged 127 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,076 with the attempted murder of her husband. 128 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:10,270 What was her reaction? 129 00:07:11,630 --> 00:07:13,630 She asked if she could clean her teeth. 130 00:07:14,730 --> 00:07:17,300 Anything else you noticed about her demeanor? 131 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,306 Earlier, there was a lot of blood on her... 132 00:07:20,330 --> 00:07:21,630 Her husband's blood... 133 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,430 and she was very anxious about her nightie. 134 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,370 Her nightie? 135 00:07:29,230 --> 00:07:31,100 What about it? 136 00:07:31,730 --> 00:07:34,330 It was on the wrong way around. 137 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:37,730 And she didn't like it like that. 138 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,370 It was very important to her that it be... 139 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:46,030 the right way around. 140 00:07:49,770 --> 00:07:53,400 What were you doing just before 7:00 that morning? 141 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,676 I was in the canteen, writing my notes. 142 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:58,500 You were nowhere near the canteen. 143 00:08:00,130 --> 00:08:01,646 You were down in the cells 144 00:08:01,670 --> 00:08:04,146 telling Juliet Miller she could see her daughter 145 00:08:04,170 --> 00:08:06,330 if she gave you a second interview. 146 00:08:07,370 --> 00:08:08,177 No. 147 00:08:08,201 --> 00:08:09,646 And it was made very clear to her 148 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:12,700 what you wanted her to say in that second interview. 149 00:08:14,370 --> 00:08:16,530 No. Never happened. 150 00:08:17,370 --> 00:08:21,306 So if we were to ask Ella 151 00:08:21,330 --> 00:08:24,676 about you setting up a chance encounter 152 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:27,276 between mother and daughter in the cell area 153 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:30,306 to soften up an already deeply distressed woman, 154 00:08:30,330 --> 00:08:33,506 it would be amazing if she came down on her mother's side. 155 00:08:33,530 --> 00:08:35,230 It didn't happen. 156 00:08:35,730 --> 00:08:39,030 Are you saying the defendant is lying about this? 157 00:08:40,430 --> 00:08:42,606 Well, there's no other explanation I can see. 158 00:08:42,630 --> 00:08:45,776 Unless, of course, it's true. 159 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,046 You stopped thinking 160 00:08:48,070 --> 00:08:50,476 the moment Juliet Miller arrived at the police station. 161 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:52,606 You never once countenanced the possibility 162 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:54,646 that this woman could be a victim of abuse 163 00:08:54,670 --> 00:08:56,570 because that's not how you ever think. 164 00:08:57,430 --> 00:09:00,746 Well, actually, it's all we do think about. 165 00:09:00,770 --> 00:09:03,376 Domestic violence is right at the front of our heads. 166 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,076 - So I think it's... - Then you'll know 167 00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:09,546 that abused women present as cold and matter-of-fact 168 00:09:09,570 --> 00:09:12,300 when suffering from traumatic shock. 169 00:09:13,530 --> 00:09:16,730 I'm fine-tuned to spot a victim of abuse. 170 00:09:17,530 --> 00:09:22,100 I'm telling you... Juliet Miller is not what you think she is. 171 00:09:26,030 --> 00:09:27,076 He's lying. 172 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:29,676 Yeah, and we can prove it if Felix lets us recall Ella, 173 00:09:29,700 --> 00:09:32,676 which will be hard for Juliet, so it'd better be her decision. 174 00:09:32,700 --> 00:09:33,677 Yes. 175 00:09:33,701 --> 00:09:35,276 Are you all right? 176 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:36,376 Yeah. Fine. Why? 177 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,006 I'm fine-tuned to spot a victim of a classy performance 178 00:09:39,030 --> 00:09:40,676 in the witness box. 179 00:09:40,700 --> 00:09:43,306 And put Ella on standby for a recall. 180 00:09:43,330 --> 00:09:46,076 - Only standby? - Yeah. 181 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:48,276 I don't want her to be here any longer than she needs to be. 182 00:09:48,300 --> 00:09:51,430 Or you haven't had instructions from Mum yet. 183 00:10:01,530 --> 00:10:03,530 The Bible or affirming? 184 00:10:04,630 --> 00:10:06,470 The Bible. 185 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:11,076 Is it right that the drugs squad 186 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:13,546 were carrying out a surveillance operation 187 00:10:13,570 --> 00:10:16,406 on the Regent's Canal between January and March? 188 00:10:16,430 --> 00:10:17,347 Yes. 189 00:10:17,371 --> 00:10:20,246 Mm. And do you have the surveillance log with you? 190 00:10:20,270 --> 00:10:21,306 Yes. 191 00:10:21,330 --> 00:10:24,400 Can you look at the entry for March 9th? 192 00:10:26,270 --> 00:10:28,076 You're not looking at it. 193 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:29,800 I know what it says. 194 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:35,776 Is there reference to someone labeled RM in the log? 195 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,546 - Yes. - Who is that? 196 00:10:37,570 --> 00:10:40,206 That's Joe Miller... Running Man. 197 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:41,346 And is there reference 198 00:10:41,370 --> 00:10:43,606 to someone labeled "J" in the log? 199 00:10:43,630 --> 00:10:45,206 - Yes. - Who is that? 200 00:10:45,230 --> 00:10:48,176 A drug dealer working the canal. 201 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,376 And is there contact between RM and J on March 9th? 202 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,776 3:47 p.m... 203 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,646 The log says RM stopped and talked to J 204 00:10:58,670 --> 00:11:00,430 and something was passed between them. 205 00:11:01,230 --> 00:11:05,276 Is it right that £620 in £20 notes 206 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:08,746 was found in the pocket of Joe Miller the night he was stabbed? 207 00:11:08,770 --> 00:11:09,747 Yes. 208 00:11:09,771 --> 00:11:11,476 Is there a point to this, Ms. Klein, 209 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:14,230 or are you just throwing mud around? 210 00:11:14,730 --> 00:11:18,406 Thank you, Your Honor, for your... guidance. 211 00:11:18,430 --> 00:11:21,100 We will return to this with another witness. 212 00:11:22,100 --> 00:11:25,606 Were you in the police station at 6:55 a.m. 213 00:11:25,630 --> 00:11:28,430 on the morning of March 10th? 214 00:11:30,430 --> 00:11:31,476 Yes. 215 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:33,730 Did you see D.I. Sexton? 216 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,407 Yes. 217 00:11:38,431 --> 00:11:40,430 What did you have to eat? 218 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:43,276 I'm sorry? 219 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:45,506 Well, Sexton tells us he was in the canteen 220 00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:50,106 between 6:30 and 7:30, writing up his notes. 221 00:11:50,130 --> 00:11:55,330 That's where you must have seen him... at 6:55. 222 00:11:56,770 --> 00:11:58,330 It must have been. 223 00:11:59,530 --> 00:12:03,330 I don't need to remind you that you are still under oath. 224 00:12:04,270 --> 00:12:06,100 No, you don't. 225 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:25,076 I lost an hour for you. 226 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:27,706 - I know. Thank you. - You made me lie on oath. 227 00:12:27,730 --> 00:12:29,476 - It wasn't me. - Of course it was you. 228 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:31,246 I had to corroborate your lie. 229 00:12:31,270 --> 00:12:33,506 It's your choice. You could have gone either way. 230 00:12:33,530 --> 00:12:35,476 Us and them, boss, whether you like it or not. 231 00:12:35,500 --> 00:12:39,070 But when it comes right down to it on oath, you're one of us. 232 00:12:40,270 --> 00:12:43,776 I was upstairs in the bedroom with Joe. 233 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,776 I went downstairs. 234 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,176 I got a knife from the kitchen. 235 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,506 I came back upstairs with it. 236 00:12:50,530 --> 00:12:53,330 What did you intend to do with the knife? 237 00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:56,600 Use it. 238 00:12:58,570 --> 00:13:01,376 Now, would you please help the jury 239 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,576 by telling us about the tone of the defendant in interview? 240 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,576 Matter-of-fact. 241 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,776 Thank you. 242 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,476 Have you discussed your evidence with your husband? 243 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:14,670 Yes. 244 00:13:14,730 --> 00:13:16,470 Yes? 245 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,630 All police officers do it, and then they pretend they haven't. 246 00:13:22,570 --> 00:13:25,576 So when did you first discuss the investigation 247 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,600 with your husband? 248 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:29,546 Well, we were together at the police station 249 00:13:29,570 --> 00:13:30,676 on the first night. 250 00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:34,070 And did you see him around 7:00 a.m. the following morning? 251 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:36,146 Yes. 252 00:13:36,170 --> 00:13:38,206 Where? 253 00:13:38,230 --> 00:13:40,470 The cell area. 254 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:44,176 Yeah. 6:55 a.m. 255 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,706 You're able to be very precise. 256 00:13:46,730 --> 00:13:49,706 My life is full of shifts and... and notebooks. 257 00:13:49,730 --> 00:13:52,776 You know, time matters. 258 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,576 I'm never wrong about it. 259 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,106 Anyone who suggested that your husband was in the canteen 260 00:13:58,130 --> 00:14:02,106 at this precise moment in time would be a liar? 261 00:14:02,130 --> 00:14:05,076 My mum has this expression... "pants on fire." 262 00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:06,276 Meaning liar? 263 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:08,570 Yeah. Exactly. 264 00:14:12,570 --> 00:14:14,046 Brilliant. 265 00:14:14,070 --> 00:14:15,976 - Brilliant! - Yes. 266 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,446 Police officers can tell lies, 267 00:14:17,470 --> 00:14:20,476 and it always helps for a jury to remember that. 268 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:21,706 The much bigger question 269 00:14:21,730 --> 00:14:23,706 is why Jane Grady is grassing up Juliet on the rape. 270 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:26,106 What's in it for her? Where are you going? 271 00:14:26,130 --> 00:14:28,546 One thing solicitors almost always, always do wrong. 272 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:29,377 What's that? 273 00:14:29,401 --> 00:14:31,346 We spend our lives reacting to prosecution evidence 274 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:34,070 and not enough time gathering our own. 275 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:37,746 Lying doesn't bother you, then? 276 00:14:37,770 --> 00:14:40,706 What percentage of defendants who stand trial are guilty... 277 00:14:40,730 --> 00:14:42,506 As in they did it? 278 00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:44,046 90%? Maybe more? 279 00:14:44,070 --> 00:14:45,606 You ask any brief out there off the record, 280 00:14:45,630 --> 00:14:47,346 they'd agree with that. 281 00:14:47,370 --> 00:14:49,776 - Does lying bother you? - How many of them get off? No. 282 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,606 That's what I need to know, Chris. 283 00:14:51,630 --> 00:14:53,206 At least half. 284 00:14:53,230 --> 00:14:54,646 Yeah. So you know what? 285 00:14:54,670 --> 00:14:57,706 I'm not really gonna feel that bad about playing the game hard. 286 00:14:57,730 --> 00:15:01,070 No. But you are playing God. 287 00:15:04,170 --> 00:15:07,170 So if you'd known what the party line was... 288 00:15:09,170 --> 00:15:10,800 would you have lied? 289 00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:15,400 Would you? 290 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,406 You lied, sir. 291 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:31,247 Why? 292 00:15:31,271 --> 00:15:33,576 Because your husband doesn't deserve to lose his career 293 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,346 over this. 294 00:15:35,370 --> 00:15:37,646 He's a good police officer doing his job. 295 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:41,100 It doesn't make him a good man, though, does it? 296 00:15:45,530 --> 00:15:47,306 Are you all right? 297 00:15:47,330 --> 00:15:48,730 I'm fine. 298 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,200 I'm quite pregnant, but I'm fine. 299 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,700 You haven't told him. 300 00:16:01,170 --> 00:16:02,206 Why not, Flo? 301 00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:04,400 'Cause I don't want to. 302 00:16:10,030 --> 00:16:11,430 Dad? 303 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,670 Dad? 304 00:16:25,170 --> 00:16:26,370 Dad? 305 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,730 Dad?! 306 00:17:10,070 --> 00:17:11,730 Are you tired? 307 00:17:19,530 --> 00:17:21,370 Let's go home, eh? 308 00:17:25,230 --> 00:17:26,570 Come on. 309 00:17:30,370 --> 00:17:32,530 I'm not coming home. 310 00:18:00,770 --> 00:18:02,076 How do you know? 311 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:03,546 I went to her house. 312 00:18:03,570 --> 00:18:06,206 Jane never said anything about having a child. 313 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:07,246 - Did you ask? - Yes. 314 00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:09,146 - What did she say? - She said she didn't. 315 00:18:09,170 --> 00:18:10,546 Well, she would say that, wouldn't she? 316 00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:13,570 - How old is she? - Twelve, thirteen. 317 00:18:15,130 --> 00:18:18,106 She said that she wasn't raped by her husband. 318 00:18:18,130 --> 00:18:19,570 She couldn't have been more clearer. 319 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,230 Are you a liar? 320 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:27,077 Why? 321 00:18:27,101 --> 00:18:30,130 Did you tell the defendant that you have no children? 322 00:18:31,030 --> 00:18:33,130 - Yeah. - Is that true? 323 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:35,676 - No. - No. 324 00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:38,306 So you denied yourself any contact with your daughter 325 00:18:38,330 --> 00:18:40,270 whilst you were on remand? 326 00:18:41,030 --> 00:18:43,076 Yeah. Six months. 327 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,246 'Cause if she would've visited, 328 00:18:44,270 --> 00:18:46,346 then the authorities would've found out. 329 00:18:46,370 --> 00:18:49,076 Well, you must have missed her a great deal. 330 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:50,106 Yeah, I did. 331 00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:53,570 After six months, it must have been almost unbearable for you. 332 00:18:55,570 --> 00:18:58,646 So you gave a statement to the police about Juliet Miller, 333 00:18:58,670 --> 00:19:00,670 and two days later, you were released on bail. 334 00:19:01,530 --> 00:19:03,206 Mm. 335 00:19:03,230 --> 00:19:05,206 You'd do anything for your daughter, 336 00:19:05,230 --> 00:19:06,546 wouldn't you? 337 00:19:06,570 --> 00:19:07,547 Yeah, I would. 338 00:19:07,571 --> 00:19:09,406 Lying to the police about a fellow prisoner 339 00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:11,070 must have come very easily to you. 340 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:16,230 So I'm telling the truth. 341 00:19:16,730 --> 00:19:18,276 She knows it. 342 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:19,600 Ask her. 343 00:19:27,330 --> 00:19:28,546 Joe Miller was the truest, 344 00:19:28,570 --> 00:19:31,276 best, most decent human being I ever met. 345 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:32,676 And I can't stand it that he's dead, 346 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:36,100 and I will not stand by here and have his name taken in vain. 347 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,706 What was he doing with £620 in his trouser pocket 348 00:19:39,730 --> 00:19:40,776 the day he was stabbed? 349 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,146 I gave it to him. 350 00:19:42,170 --> 00:19:44,176 Do you usually carry that kind of money around with you? 351 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,646 Between you, me, and these four walls, yes. 352 00:19:46,670 --> 00:19:50,076 One of the notes found in Joe's pocket has fingerprints on it 353 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,676 belonging to a known drug dealer on the Regent's Canal. 354 00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:55,146 And that's what you're trying to pin on Joe? 355 00:19:55,170 --> 00:19:56,776 His daughter's outside. 356 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,777 Bring her in here. Go on. 357 00:19:57,801 --> 00:19:59,246 Put it to me in front of her 358 00:19:59,270 --> 00:20:01,730 that her father was involved in drugs. 359 00:20:04,130 --> 00:20:07,000 What's the matter, darling? You ain't got the balls? 360 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,506 - It's what you do, isn't it? - What? 361 00:20:10,530 --> 00:20:12,506 Avoid answering the question by asking one back. 362 00:20:12,530 --> 00:20:14,006 You want me to answer your question? 363 00:20:14,030 --> 00:20:15,007 Yes, please. 364 00:20:15,031 --> 00:20:16,576 I gave him the £600. 365 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,646 And when it stops being an exhibit in his trial, 366 00:20:18,670 --> 00:20:21,506 it will be going to the charity it was intended for. 367 00:20:21,530 --> 00:20:23,546 It's part of your job to lie, isn't it? 368 00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:26,276 You protect your people, and you don't care how you do it. 369 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:27,646 And just because Joe Miller is dead, 370 00:20:27,670 --> 00:20:30,100 it doesn't stop you lying for him. 371 00:20:36,530 --> 00:20:39,246 Bank statement. March 9th. 372 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:41,406 £600 withdrawal from the hole in the wall 373 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:42,776 'round the corner from the chambers. 374 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,346 Timed, dated. 375 00:20:44,370 --> 00:20:45,630 Yours, so. 376 00:20:49,530 --> 00:20:51,176 He was running the London Marathon 377 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,006 for the prostate cancer charity. 378 00:20:53,030 --> 00:20:55,306 'Cause that's the kind of man he was. 379 00:20:55,330 --> 00:20:58,400 And I sponsored him... 2620s, plus Gift Aid. 380 00:20:59,530 --> 00:21:01,670 Only secret he ever had from me. 381 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,130 What secret? 382 00:21:05,300 --> 00:21:07,700 - Do I have to say? - Yes. 383 00:21:11,030 --> 00:21:12,676 He was running for the 10,000 men 384 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:15,500 who die of that cancer every year in this country. 385 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,570 And he was running for me. 386 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:31,746 Nice. 387 00:21:31,770 --> 00:21:33,306 Is that the right word? 388 00:21:33,330 --> 00:21:35,430 Everyone loves a victim. 389 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,470 What? I'm making it up? 390 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:44,070 Excuse me. I've got to take a piss. 391 00:21:45,370 --> 00:21:46,506 Shit! 392 00:21:46,530 --> 00:21:48,476 Shameless opportunism... Is that a fair description 393 00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:49,776 of what the jury are making of that? 394 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,176 Oh, you knew about this. 395 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,676 What's Ella doing here? 396 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:54,106 We might need her again. 397 00:21:54,130 --> 00:21:57,100 Did you see her shaking after the last time? 398 00:21:57,530 --> 00:21:59,706 So opportunism and heartlessness. 399 00:21:59,730 --> 00:22:01,406 Jury are gonna love you. 400 00:22:01,430 --> 00:22:03,430 I don't know where you lot get the front. 401 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,406 He's right. 402 00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:06,706 There's a woman on the front row. 403 00:22:06,730 --> 00:22:09,106 Every time I stand up, she folds her arms. 404 00:22:09,130 --> 00:22:10,670 Jury are not with us, Jack. 405 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:14,000 We have to get something out of Ella. 406 00:23:07,730 --> 00:23:09,530 Do you think she should go to prison? 407 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:13,430 I can't say, Ella. It wouldn't be fair of me. 408 00:23:14,530 --> 00:23:16,470 But what do you think? 409 00:23:37,570 --> 00:23:41,330 Did you see your mum at the police station? 410 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,177 Yes. 411 00:23:43,201 --> 00:23:48,130 So anyone suggesting otherwise would be lying? 412 00:23:48,570 --> 00:23:50,546 Did my Mum say she didn't see me? 413 00:23:50,570 --> 00:23:54,246 No. She said she did see you. 414 00:23:54,270 --> 00:23:57,706 D.I. Sexton said she didn't see you. 415 00:23:57,730 --> 00:24:01,070 So which one is telling the truth? 416 00:24:03,330 --> 00:24:05,570 I don't know. I can't remember. 417 00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:10,300 Do you think your mum is lying? 418 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,370 She killed my dad. 419 00:24:15,030 --> 00:24:16,376 He was so nice to her. 420 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,606 You can't know that. 421 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:21,146 You weren't with them all the time. 422 00:24:21,170 --> 00:24:24,706 For example, you can't know what happened between them 423 00:24:24,730 --> 00:24:26,306 in their bedroom. 424 00:24:26,330 --> 00:24:29,200 But I can. I do know. 425 00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:31,330 What do you know? 426 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,276 He said nice things to her in the bedroom. 427 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:36,570 - Like "I love you"? - Yes. 428 00:24:37,730 --> 00:24:42,146 I'm sorry, Ella, but... you want to believe it, 429 00:24:42,170 --> 00:24:45,146 so your mind makes you feel like it's true. 430 00:24:45,170 --> 00:24:47,106 I heard it. 431 00:24:47,130 --> 00:24:48,800 How did you hear it? 432 00:24:52,030 --> 00:24:54,006 I sat on the stairs. 433 00:24:54,030 --> 00:24:56,430 I used to sit on the stairs. 434 00:24:58,170 --> 00:25:00,206 Did you hear anything else? 435 00:25:00,230 --> 00:25:01,630 Yes. 436 00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:05,176 What did you hear? 437 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,246 He said it really softly. 438 00:25:08,270 --> 00:25:09,500 What did he say? 439 00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:15,330 "Roll over." 440 00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:17,570 "Roll over, baby." 441 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:22,130 We can't hear you, Ella. 442 00:25:25,270 --> 00:25:26,770 "Roll over." 443 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,577 "Roll over, baby." 444 00:25:28,601 --> 00:25:29,776 Please! I don't want this! Please! 445 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,146 Mrs. Miller, please. 446 00:25:31,170 --> 00:25:32,406 My lord, I really must object. 447 00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:34,346 Ella, you need to say it louder for the jury. 448 00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:35,706 We need to hear what she has to say. 449 00:25:35,730 --> 00:25:36,707 What's happening? 450 00:25:36,731 --> 00:25:39,046 Ella, you need to say it one more time for the jury. 451 00:25:39,070 --> 00:25:40,306 Please. Stop. 452 00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:44,006 "Roll over. Roll over, baby." 453 00:25:44,030 --> 00:25:47,130 Ella? I love you. 454 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,770 Ella. Ella, please. 455 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:56,570 Shh. 456 00:25:57,230 --> 00:25:59,106 We'd better have the jury out. 457 00:25:59,130 --> 00:26:00,470 - Will the jury retire? - Mummy. 458 00:26:01,170 --> 00:26:03,176 I love you. 459 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,106 It's okay. 460 00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:06,700 I love you. 461 00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:08,530 It'll be all right. 462 00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:54,430 What did Ella mean? 463 00:26:58,570 --> 00:27:00,570 Hmm? 464 00:27:01,470 --> 00:27:03,330 Okay. 465 00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:06,506 You had a shower just before Joe got home. 466 00:27:06,530 --> 00:27:07,630 Why? 467 00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:10,476 I don't know. 468 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:12,500 Yes, you do. 469 00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:16,146 Joe knew you'd had a shower. Was that why he was angry? 470 00:27:16,170 --> 00:27:17,147 Where's Anna? 471 00:27:17,171 --> 00:27:18,606 - You knew he'd be angry. - Jack. 472 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:20,430 When did you find out you were pregnant? 473 00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:22,330 Hmm? 474 00:27:22,770 --> 00:27:24,730 Was it that day? 475 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,707 Mm. 476 00:27:26,731 --> 00:27:29,370 Well, why would that make him angry? 477 00:27:31,730 --> 00:27:33,400 How'd you do that to your hand? 478 00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:36,446 It's the burn from the dishes. It's... It's gone funny. 479 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:38,246 After all these months? That's not true, is it? 480 00:27:38,270 --> 00:27:39,276 Why are you doing this? 481 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:41,406 This is not half of what they'll do in cross-examination. 482 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:43,346 You have to be ready. 483 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:46,446 Why was Joe angry that night? 484 00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:48,230 Come on. 485 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:49,376 Come on! 486 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,500 I... 487 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,000 We haven't talked about the life insurance on the computer. 488 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,670 Yeah. 489 00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:17,570 I know how low you can get when your life is not your own. 490 00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:23,230 It was you on the computer, wasn't it? 491 00:28:29,070 --> 00:28:30,630 And I think I know why. 492 00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:41,100 I'm right, aren't I? 493 00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:44,300 Don't tell anyone. 494 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,370 Promise. 495 00:28:58,230 --> 00:29:02,100 I've believed in you from the start. 496 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,470 This is the end now. 497 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:07,770 This is where you do it for yourself. 498 00:30:01,430 --> 00:30:04,376 Anything from her on the life insurance? 499 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,406 - Nothing. - They'll know, won't they? 500 00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:08,276 If I don't bring it up in chief, 501 00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:10,006 Nick will go for her in cross-examination. 502 00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:12,470 Then Juliet will be forced to deal with it. 503 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:18,530 There's something you should see. 504 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:23,370 Cheers. 505 00:31:13,270 --> 00:31:15,676 Why did you love him? 506 00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:18,746 He was funny and warm. 507 00:31:18,770 --> 00:31:20,206 And he made me feel like 508 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:22,630 the most important person in his life. 509 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,570 And then he'd turn. 510 00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:29,270 He'd pick on something I'd done or hadn't done. 511 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,076 It was so hard trying to do the right thing all the time, 512 00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,146 every single minute, 513 00:31:36,170 --> 00:31:39,230 and trying to work out what the right thing was. 514 00:31:39,730 --> 00:31:42,800 So what would happen when he... when he turned? 515 00:31:43,670 --> 00:31:45,646 He'd be angry. 516 00:31:45,670 --> 00:31:47,606 And was he angry the night it all happened? 517 00:31:47,630 --> 00:31:49,276 Yes. 518 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:52,106 Was he ever angry with Ella? 519 00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:53,007 No. 520 00:31:53,031 --> 00:31:54,506 - With you in front of Ella? - No. 521 00:31:54,530 --> 00:31:57,206 So she never saw him hurt you. 522 00:31:57,230 --> 00:31:59,276 He... He didn't hit me. 523 00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:02,006 But in a way, I wish he had, 524 00:32:02,030 --> 00:32:04,506 because then it would have been clear. 525 00:32:04,530 --> 00:32:07,570 I'd have known exactly what it was he was doing. 526 00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:12,006 You see, I-I'd see him with Ella, and, um... 527 00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:13,730 I couldn't see it. 528 00:32:14,330 --> 00:32:17,046 How could he hide it so well? 529 00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:20,176 And then I started to think I was going mad. 530 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,506 - And do you think he knew that? - What? 531 00:32:22,530 --> 00:32:24,530 That you thought you were going mad. 532 00:32:25,370 --> 00:32:30,230 He knew everything about me all of the time. 533 00:32:31,570 --> 00:32:33,276 Do you think he wanted you mad? 534 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,146 Uh, leading question. 535 00:32:35,170 --> 00:32:36,476 Rephrase it, please. 536 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,130 - He told me. - What? 537 00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:43,700 He said, "You're not very well, and it's going to get worse. 538 00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:47,646 But don't worry, because we're going to look after you." 539 00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:50,206 Who did he mean by "we"? 540 00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:53,170 Him and... Ella. 541 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,330 Thank you. 542 00:33:00,030 --> 00:33:02,500 Who instigated sex the night Joe died? 543 00:33:05,530 --> 00:33:06,576 I did. 544 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,770 How? 545 00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:12,470 We were in the bedroom. 546 00:33:13,670 --> 00:33:15,500 Yes. How? 547 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,046 I touched him. 548 00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:21,500 Where? 549 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,776 So you aroused your husband? 550 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,677 Yes. 551 00:33:28,701 --> 00:33:31,800 This is your reaction to being frightened of him, is it? 552 00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:37,570 Is your daughter a liar? 553 00:33:42,370 --> 00:33:47,270 Well, she told us she heard Joe say that he loved you. 554 00:33:48,770 --> 00:33:51,176 So you can't both be right, can you? 555 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,730 So I'm going to ask you again... Is your daughter a liar? 556 00:33:57,730 --> 00:33:58,976 No. 557 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,776 No. It doesn't fit with your story, does it? 558 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,476 Your claim to victimhood doesn't fit with a husband 559 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:09,000 who tells you he loves you moments before you stab him. 560 00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,076 I'm going to come back to what happened in the bedroom. 561 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,176 But, uh, first I want to ask you about afterwards. 562 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,300 You went downstairs? 563 00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:20,976 Yes. 564 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Put a coat on? 565 00:34:25,370 --> 00:34:28,176 I thought I might be cold. 566 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,200 You thought you might be cold. 567 00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:35,400 And all the while Joe was lying bleeding upstairs? 568 00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:40,700 Did you think he was going to die? 569 00:34:41,700 --> 00:34:44,376 That's why I came to the hospital. 570 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,470 An hour and a half later, yes. 571 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,430 Where had you been? 572 00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:54,346 I'd been walking in the park. 573 00:34:54,370 --> 00:34:56,470 I didn't know what to do. 574 00:34:57,130 --> 00:34:58,676 Did you think about Ella 575 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:00,670 and what she might be doing? 576 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,306 You don't understand. 577 00:35:04,330 --> 00:35:07,176 I understand that you left your 13-year-old daughter 578 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,070 alone with her grievously wounded father. 579 00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:16,306 Did Joe see the knife you'd brought into bed with you? 580 00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:17,406 No. 581 00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:20,106 Why not? It had a seven-inch blade. 582 00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:23,270 I'd... hidden it. 583 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:26,506 Was hiding the knife something you thought about doing 584 00:35:26,530 --> 00:35:29,570 while you were sitting in the bedroom all that time? 585 00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:32,446 I suppose so. 586 00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:35,346 So there was nothing spontaneous about your actions, was there? 587 00:35:35,370 --> 00:35:38,006 Everything you did was a calculated decision. 588 00:35:38,030 --> 00:35:40,676 God knows you took your time, Juliet Miller. 589 00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:42,230 No. There... 590 00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:46,076 Not easy maneuvering yourself in bed to get the force needed 591 00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:50,370 to drive the knife into the body so hard that it stays there. 592 00:35:52,330 --> 00:35:54,330 How did you do that? 593 00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:57,770 I can't explain. 594 00:35:59,170 --> 00:36:01,400 Then why don't you show us? 595 00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:06,246 No. 596 00:36:06,270 --> 00:36:07,600 Why not? 597 00:36:10,070 --> 00:36:12,006 I was just so frightened. 598 00:36:12,030 --> 00:36:14,076 You keep telling us about being frightened 599 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,230 and the danger you supposed yourself to be in. 600 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,606 Why didn't you leave? 601 00:36:19,630 --> 00:36:21,506 Why come back upstairs? 602 00:36:21,530 --> 00:36:23,076 Why not walk out the door? 603 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,076 Was anybody stopping you? 604 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,246 Why not leave when you were sitting in the bedroom 605 00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:29,576 all that time, thinking that Joe was asleep? 606 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,646 So many opportunities to just walk away. 607 00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:35,476 I had nowhere to go. 608 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:38,206 The park, the police station, the Rose house. 609 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:40,176 And what would I have said? 610 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,346 You mean it would have been awkward? 611 00:36:42,370 --> 00:36:43,770 Embarrassing? 612 00:36:46,030 --> 00:36:50,206 So you chose sticking a knife in your husband's abdomen 613 00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:52,600 over social embarrassment. 614 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,706 Why did you choose this knife over this one... 615 00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:06,500 or this one? 616 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,046 Grip? Size? Sharpness? 617 00:37:10,070 --> 00:37:11,710 Which is the sharpest of the three knives? 618 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:18,500 Thank you. 619 00:37:27,730 --> 00:37:30,430 Hold it up so the jury can see, will you? 620 00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:39,500 Which has the longest blade? 621 00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:42,406 This one. 622 00:37:42,430 --> 00:37:44,730 Which knife did you choose? 623 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:48,076 This one. 624 00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:49,470 Thank you. 625 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,506 The other two knives were found lined up on the kitchen counter. 626 00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:57,106 Did the murder weapon form a part of this lineup? 627 00:37:57,130 --> 00:37:57,777 Yes. 628 00:37:57,801 --> 00:38:00,430 So you lined them up to look at? 629 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,346 Pretty clear rational decision-making process, 630 00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:07,700 wouldn't you say? 631 00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:12,706 Did the shoes you put on before leaving the house have laces? 632 00:38:12,730 --> 00:38:13,547 Yes. 633 00:38:13,571 --> 00:38:15,646 - Did you tie the laces? - Yes. 634 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:17,676 Yes. Which coat did you wear? 635 00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:18,746 My gray one. 636 00:38:18,770 --> 00:38:20,276 Sure? 637 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,406 It was under another coat in the coat cupboard. 638 00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:23,377 Whose? 639 00:38:23,401 --> 00:38:25,346 Joe's. 640 00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:27,146 You tied your laces, 641 00:38:27,170 --> 00:38:29,306 you picked out your coat from under your husband's, 642 00:38:29,330 --> 00:38:31,046 you put his coat back in the cupboard, 643 00:38:31,070 --> 00:38:33,000 you put your coat on... 644 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,246 a matter of moments after you'd stuck a seven-inch blade 645 00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:38,406 in your husband's abdomen 646 00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:41,046 and then left your 13-year-old daughter alone 647 00:38:41,070 --> 00:38:43,630 to deal with the horrors you had brought about. 648 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,230 What kind of a woman are you? 649 00:39:02,270 --> 00:39:04,600 I'm tidy. 650 00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:12,006 Tidy people check their insurance policies, don't they? 651 00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:13,770 On the computer. 652 00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:20,006 5:01 p.m. on Monday, March 9th, 653 00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:22,546 just hours before you gave your husband the knife wound 654 00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:27,070 that caused his death... Is that you on the computer? 655 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,370 Juliet Miller. 656 00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:35,576 No. The court needs a record of your evidence. 657 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,170 You have to say the word, please. 658 00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:40,500 Yes. 659 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,800 We'll take a short break. 660 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,200 Anna. 661 00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:35,746 Um, might I have a moment to take instructions, my lord? 662 00:40:35,770 --> 00:40:36,747 You have to go for her. 663 00:40:36,771 --> 00:40:38,276 Really go for her. Really push her. 664 00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:39,606 This has to be a cross-examination, 665 00:40:39,630 --> 00:40:41,206 - not a re-examination. - Ms. Klein. 666 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,206 First question, ask what she took from the house. 667 00:40:43,230 --> 00:40:45,376 I can't. It hasn't come out of cross-examination. 668 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,446 - Yes, Ms. Klein? - Yes, it has. 669 00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:48,376 He went on about her shoelaces, about her coat. 670 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,030 - Just do it and trust me. - Now, Ms. Klein. 671 00:40:54,370 --> 00:40:56,570 What did you take with you when you left the house? 672 00:40:59,530 --> 00:41:02,000 - I threw it away. - What was it? 673 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,306 Why are you doing this? 674 00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:06,670 What was it? 675 00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:10,400 Vaseline. 676 00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:13,306 Was it yours? 677 00:41:13,330 --> 00:41:15,100 - No. - Joe's? 678 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,330 What did he use it for? 679 00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:31,506 - Well, why take it with you? - Can I have a break? 680 00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:35,170 Why were you looking at the life insurance on the computer? 681 00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:42,046 I wanted to know what there would be for Ella if I was... 682 00:41:42,070 --> 00:41:43,430 If you what? 683 00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:48,330 If I wasn't here. 684 00:41:48,770 --> 00:41:50,470 Well, why would you not be? 685 00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:54,376 I couldn't do it anymore. 686 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,076 Do what? 687 00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:57,770 What couldn't you do? 688 00:41:58,730 --> 00:42:00,306 What he was doing to me. 689 00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:02,670 And what was that, Juliet? 690 00:42:05,630 --> 00:42:08,500 Juliet, what does "Roll over, baby" mean? 691 00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:13,270 Juliet? 692 00:42:14,770 --> 00:42:17,330 He was buggering me! 693 00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:24,706 Was that always what happened? 694 00:42:24,730 --> 00:42:26,546 Yes. 695 00:42:26,570 --> 00:42:29,630 Did you have normal sexual intercourse? 696 00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:32,247 No. 697 00:42:32,271 --> 00:42:33,746 - Was it against your will? - Yes. 698 00:42:33,770 --> 00:42:36,170 And how did that make you feel? 699 00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:40,800 It hurt. 700 00:42:42,170 --> 00:42:44,500 And it felt like he hated me. 701 00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,676 Like I was worthless. 702 00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:48,730 And then, this night or... 703 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,530 this time, he was so angry. 704 00:42:57,730 --> 00:43:01,730 Um, what have you done to your hand? 705 00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:07,276 - I've cut it. - How? Accidentally? 706 00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:08,370 No. 707 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,530 What? Deliberately? 708 00:43:12,330 --> 00:43:14,370 It makes the pain better. 709 00:43:15,130 --> 00:43:16,570 What pain? 710 00:43:19,370 --> 00:43:22,476 The pain inside... The pain inside better. 711 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:23,646 Juliet, tell us what happened 712 00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:26,300 when you got back into bed with Joe that night. 713 00:43:27,070 --> 00:43:28,206 I can't. 714 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:29,630 You can. 715 00:43:33,130 --> 00:43:34,570 You have to. 716 00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:56,470 I lay down on my front next to him. 717 00:43:57,070 --> 00:43:59,000 I closed my eyes. 718 00:44:00,470 --> 00:44:03,130 I felt him climbing on top of me. 719 00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:07,370 I had the knife underneath the pillow. 720 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:11,100 He pulled my legs apart. 721 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:18,270 I was going to lie down on the knife. 722 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,976 I was going to turn it and point it 723 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,700 and let myself down onto it. 724 00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:31,370 But I couldn't. 725 00:44:33,370 --> 00:44:35,200 My baby... 726 00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:38,730 was inside me, and of course I couldn't. 727 00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:45,470 And then something snapped. 728 00:44:47,470 --> 00:44:49,106 And it was suddenly the only way. 729 00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:50,630 What did you do? 730 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,400 I turned my head to the side. 731 00:44:57,530 --> 00:45:00,000 I saw him close his eyes. 732 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,476 I slipped the knife out from underneath the pillow, 733 00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:06,476 and I drove it back and up and into him 734 00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:08,246 as hard as I could. 735 00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:10,576 It went in so easily. 736 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,106 Juliet, when you were in the police station, 737 00:45:13,130 --> 00:45:16,070 why did you want to turn your nightie around? 738 00:45:20,770 --> 00:45:22,646 It had his blood on the back of it. 739 00:45:22,670 --> 00:45:25,470 I didn't want anyone to know how he'd hurt me. 740 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:27,570 Why not? 741 00:45:31,570 --> 00:45:34,670 I feel ashamed. 742 00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:46,776 Anal sex and no normal intercourse. 743 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,230 Really? 744 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,176 Yes. 745 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,006 The evidence that you're a liar 746 00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:56,530 is in the mother-and-baby unit at the prison. 747 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,800 She isn't his. 748 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,070 What did you say? 749 00:46:12,130 --> 00:46:14,276 The baby. 750 00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:16,170 She's not Joe's. 751 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,976 You didn't tell me. 752 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,646 You knew about the suicide business, 753 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:28,006 and you kept it from me. 754 00:46:28,030 --> 00:46:29,606 I promised Juliet I wouldn't tell anyone. 755 00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:32,506 - So you chose her over me? - Why are you talking about this? 756 00:46:32,530 --> 00:46:34,176 She just got the truth out, didn't she? 757 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,346 She wouldn't have without me. 758 00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:37,276 And the truth is she was unfaithful to him. 759 00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:39,546 The baby isn't his. The truth is bloody killing us! 760 00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:41,546 There are nine women on this jury. 761 00:46:41,570 --> 00:46:44,670 I know what I'm doing. I'm saving her life. 762 00:46:54,030 --> 00:46:55,530 Tell me. 763 00:47:00,430 --> 00:47:01,700 Once. 764 00:47:05,370 --> 00:47:06,670 When? 765 00:47:09,530 --> 00:47:11,300 Months ago. 766 00:47:14,370 --> 00:47:16,100 You're the father. 767 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,030 Oh, my God. 768 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:27,170 Go to court and tell them the truth. 769 00:47:30,030 --> 00:47:31,430 You don't mean that. 770 00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:35,070 Somebody has to tell the truth. 771 00:47:39,070 --> 00:47:42,546 It was just once, over a year ago. 772 00:47:42,570 --> 00:47:44,406 You're her doctor. 773 00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:45,670 Yes. 774 00:47:46,570 --> 00:47:49,700 You knew all about her mental condition. 775 00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:52,306 Yes. 776 00:47:52,330 --> 00:47:56,370 So this was a complete breach of trust. 777 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,000 Yes, it was. 778 00:48:05,530 --> 00:48:08,206 Did she come to your house? 779 00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:09,406 Yes. 780 00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:12,106 Did she call you to make the arrangement? 781 00:48:12,130 --> 00:48:13,670 Yes. 782 00:48:14,330 --> 00:48:16,446 She was supposed to be depressed at the time? 783 00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:18,376 She was depressed. 784 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,606 I felt sorry for her. 785 00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:23,306 She instigated the meeting? 786 00:48:23,330 --> 00:48:25,100 Yes. 787 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,100 And when she got there, who made the first move? 788 00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:34,630 She did. 789 00:48:36,030 --> 00:48:37,400 Thank you. 790 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,130 I-It was my responsibility. 791 00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:48,470 She was vulnerable, and she needed help. 792 00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:51,230 I took advantage of her. 793 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,370 It's my fault, not hers. 794 00:48:57,700 --> 00:49:02,030 I will always be sorry for what I have done. 795 00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:08,746 Go back to the jury room, 796 00:49:08,770 --> 00:49:12,700 examine the evidence, and consider your verdict. 797 00:50:22,570 --> 00:50:25,770 Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh. 798 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:37,706 It's okay. 799 00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:39,770 It'll be all right. 800 00:51:54,530 --> 00:51:56,800 Will the foreman please stand? 801 00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:05,100 Have the jury reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 802 00:52:06,770 --> 00:52:08,430 Yes. 803 00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:14,630 Do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty of murder? 804 00:52:18,770 --> 00:52:20,270 Not guilty. 805 00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:35,606 Systematic. Cruel. 806 00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:38,400 Extraordinarily creative. 807 00:52:39,370 --> 00:52:41,146 The abuse this defendant suffered 808 00:52:41,170 --> 00:52:42,306 at the hands of this man 809 00:52:42,330 --> 00:52:45,800 was directed at taking away her entire identity. 810 00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:50,006 This was extreme emotional control 811 00:52:50,030 --> 00:52:52,646 exercised over a long period. 812 00:52:52,670 --> 00:52:54,546 And, in the defendant's own words, 813 00:52:54,570 --> 00:52:58,200 it was there all the time. 814 00:52:59,470 --> 00:53:03,676 I ask my lord to take into account the level of abuse 815 00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:05,530 when considering sentence. 816 00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,006 I ask my lord to take into account 817 00:53:08,030 --> 00:53:10,446 this woman's good character 818 00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:12,606 and the period this woman has already spent in prison 819 00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:14,700 with a very young baby. 820 00:53:16,570 --> 00:53:20,500 Juliet Miller has two children. 821 00:53:21,330 --> 00:53:22,476 There is nothing to say 822 00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:24,006 she won't become a good mother to them 823 00:53:24,030 --> 00:53:26,030 once she's free from the trauma she has suffered. 824 00:53:27,330 --> 00:53:30,630 Give this woman and her daughters a future. 825 00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:34,800 Will the defendant please stand? 826 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,176 You have been found not guilty of murder, 827 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,430 a verdict with which I entirely agree. 828 00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:48,546 I have had the very great benefit 829 00:53:48,570 --> 00:53:50,976 of listening to all the evidence in this case, 830 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,676 and it has helped me a great deal 831 00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:56,200 in considering the sentence I must now pass for manslaughter. 832 00:53:58,030 --> 00:53:59,706 I take into account 833 00:53:59,730 --> 00:54:02,406 all the mitigation put forward on your behalf 834 00:54:02,430 --> 00:54:05,276 and your plea of guilty. 835 00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:07,630 I reduce the sentence accordingly. 836 00:54:09,530 --> 00:54:13,506 I have to tell you that I consider this crime 837 00:54:13,530 --> 00:54:16,546 to be right at one end of the spectrum in cases of this kind. 838 00:54:16,570 --> 00:54:19,546 And I have therefore decided 839 00:54:19,570 --> 00:54:22,230 that you will go to prison for five years. 840 00:54:22,670 --> 00:54:24,406 You will serve half of this term 841 00:54:24,430 --> 00:54:27,100 before being released on license. 842 00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:37,770 This... This is too long. 843 00:54:38,430 --> 00:54:40,370 My baby. 844 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,200 Please rise. 845 00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:59,630 I'm sorry. 846 00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:51,570 Mommy loves you. 847 00:55:58,570 --> 00:56:01,300 Beautiful little baby. 848 00:56:18,130 --> 00:56:19,570 It's not time. 849 00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:21,406 It's almost quarter past. 850 00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:23,306 It's not time. 851 00:56:23,330 --> 00:56:25,000 We wait. 852 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,600 Shh.